GOD’S WORLD

A Man's World????  Ya, right!!!!!

If God determines your place, then there is no shame in that position.
Shame comes when one's God given place is thought to be inferior to the
place one thinks is more worthy of their abilities and steps out of God's
place for them. Even though this new place is stood in for God, it is in one's
own will, not God's. Know this, God's ways are far above our ways and are
always the best possible. Know also that only his friends know what he's
doing (Jn 15:13-15).

In the Garden of Eden God set his plan in motion. He didn't do that
until He had gotten everything in order and had proclaimed His will. Keep
in mind that life was perfect. Adam and Eve wanted for nothing. It was a
paradise. There was no sin, God walked with them, and all things were done
joyfully because self wasn't considered. Adam and Eve were perfect spouses/ mates.

Just like Lucifer before the fall was perfect and then sin was found in
him (Ez 28:15).

Adam wasn't considered boss, though God spoke to him, and he
passed the word on to Eve. They both had their eyes on God and His will.
They were both serving God according to His will.

Adam and Eve were basically equal in the garden, as far as they
were both necessary to form a perfect man. Gen 1:27 So God created
man in His own image, in the image of God created He him; male and
female created He them. Both had their own qualities. I believe when
God made man, that He put all the desired qualities in Adam. When He
took Adam's rib from the middle of Adam (not the head or the foot) to
form Eve, He also took qualities of man and split them between the two.
In His likeness and image created He them. It was God's plan, not Adams.
God didn't form Eve from the ground and breath into her. She received her
life from Adam, and it was God’s purpose and will.

One day Eve decided to listen to the serpent instead of Adam. Her
focus shifted to herself. She saw her disobedience as being toward Adam,
but she actually disobeyed God. Even Eve would not have defied God. If
she believed that she would die, she would not have eaten. I believe that
since things were perfect, there was only one thing to gain, self-importance.
She must have been convinced that Adam was wrong because she had to
know that God wouldn't and couldn't lie. Her dilemma must have been,
therefore; who was right, Adam or the serpent. God couldn't have been
in the choice she was contemplating and consequences were not yet known
about. With a lack of fear, Eve was able to defy Adam (not God). Her
purpose was not to defy Adam, but to enlighten him. She was a perfect
wife, and defying Adam just wasn't in her character. She was a helpmate
to the nth degree. She wasn't defiant, but rather thought she could show
Adam his error. She was seduced. Being seduced is only achieved when consequences are not factored in, and only a positive outcome is seen. Disobedience to the word of God under the law doesn't take into account
the intent behind the disobedience. Self wasn't an issue here, because sin
and the knowledge of it didn't exist yet. Pride could have been present and
caused the fall but I elect to give Eve the benefit of the doubt. I believe that
the fall would have taken place when she ate, if sin were present. Adam
would then have seen the glory of God removed from her and would not
have eaten the fruit.

With all good intentions, like the perfect wife she was, she ate the
fruit to show Adam the knowledge that he lacked. He had misunderstood
God and she could reveal that to him.
     What did Eve miss or forget?
            1. God formed Adam and gave him the duties of the garden.
            2. God had been revealing His plan to Adam before she came along.
            3. God called Adam by name but she was the woman or the wife.
            4. She was formed as a helper. It is not a helper's job to act on their
                own authority.

When Eve ate she gained the knowledge of good and evil, as God
had said. Now she had accepted a seducing spirit by an act of obedience to
him, the serpent. She, being the weaker vessel, was still innocent and hadn't
lost the glory of God upon her. Adam would have known. Now it was
Adam's turn to believe God. He didn't, he believed his wife and what he
saw. She was probably reveling in her newfound self-respect. Now she
was wiser than Adam in at least one point, if not all, and could teach him.
The roles ordained by God had been reversed in her mind. When he ate,
the role reversal was manifested. He was learning from Eve. She taught
him that eating wasn't death. She became, at that moment, his god. He
learned from her instead of from God, and she taught Adam rather than
learning from him.

Man is the head of the wife Eph 5:23, Christ is the head of the
man, and God is the head of Christ, and Christ is the head of his bride
the church. The fourth truth here doesn't cancel any of the first three.

Eve had stepped out of the line to get between God and Adam.
This didn't change things because the flow was still in order, father to
Christ to Adam to Eve. Adam and Eve were no longer twain but one
man. Who knows if the wife be sanctified by the husband. There was
a change, however, when Adam ate.

Adam's duty here was to hold up the weaker vessel and bring her
back into good standing. He didn't. He was seduced by the same spirit as
Eve, which was now speaking through Eve instead of through the serpent.
Adam knew that the serpent was a liar and couldn't be seduced by him, so
he went through Eve. Eve was no serpent. The proof of the truth was her
present glory, she hadn't died. This was a fact, however, and not truth.
        Now Adam doubted what he had heard from God. He didn't doubt
God, he knew better.  When Adam ate he lost the glory of God, his
covering. When he lost his covering, he could no longer cover his wife, the
weaker vessel, and they fell simultaneously.

Disobedience was the sin, but what caused it: Pride, lust of the
eyes, lust of the flesh? These three are only temptation and not sin until
acted upon. Pride goeth before destruction and a haughty heart before a
fall. Pride doesn't cause the fall, acting does. I believe Lucifer had pride
long before he acted and sin was found in him. Pride has no effect while
coupled with the fear of God and his word; but when fear waxes cold then
pride swells to the point of acting and then it becomes sin by disobedience.
All three are present in the flesh until death but can be overcome. Overcome
means defeated but not killed. We wrestle not flesh and blood but spirits.
Spirits cannot die they are overcome. Since they are our battle, one can
assume that these spirits (pride and lust) are overcome but still potentially
present. These spirits tempt and seduce. When these are overcome, the
spirit of self in the flesh is not tempted. Eve's spirit of self was only manifest
after temptation, and seduction. One can only be tempted by a lie, never
by truth. God doesn't tempt, he promises. His word is also eternal. In the
garden, after the fall, God spoke to women and men eternally.
        God said to the woman/women:
            1. I will greatly multiply thy sorrow.   
                (Sorrow means worrisomeness: labor or pain)
            2. AND I will greatly multiply thy conception
                (conception means pregnancy)
                a. The multiplied conception is Christ
                        1. multiplied as greater
                        2. multiplied as another family coexisting on the same
                           physical plane as Eve's physical children (God’s children)
                b. Single births such as hers from Adam were being replaced by
                     multiple conceptions
                        1. More than one conception resulting in more than one birth
                        2. There would be multiple births at the same time i.e. twins

If Adam was the first man, son, husband, etc. and Christ was the
second man, son, husband, etc.; then Eve was the first wife, bride, etc.
but the mother of all living (physical, spiritual) and the church is the
second bride, wife, etc. to Christ as Eve was to Adam. Eve was the
mother of both the physical and spiritual because it was her seed that
both came from, but not both came from Adam. There weren’t enough
ribs to replenish the earth so it was changed to seed like the rest of the
things that multiply. The seed of the word increases even the family of God,
which is Christ. When her seed was matured, it would produce seed of it's
own and multiply.
        3. in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children
            (sorrow means: a. an earthen vessel (no glorified body)
            b. usually painful toil (delivery)
            c. pangs of body or mind (PMS?)
                (Note: I believe God spoke in multiples here also.)
                1. in an imperfect body you'll have children
                2. your children will be born in imperfect bodies
                3. you'll bring forth -     raise physically
                                                    raise spiritually
                                                    give birth
                4. AND your desire (to be in charge) shall be to thy husband
                5. and he shall rule over thee

All five things that God spoke, accomplished what was spoken in the
            first item.
                        1. I believe God multiplied her being an emotional creature
                                (vs. logical) and this starts the process within the word
                                spoken and the next four compound it.
                        2. Children, through conception, become Eve's job
                        3. Labor added to conception through a new body; and
                             the new body, without the labor, was bad enough but
                            she has to deal with the children's imperfect bodies also. 
           Emotion through the loss of a child is now present.   She is stuck
        at home raising the children while Adam is out controlling things
(Feeling stuck was not God's intention though; there should be much joy
            from raising the children)

    pangs of the new physical body
                        4. pangs of the mind - Eve wanted to be in control but
                            Adam got that position and hadn't lost it. (more multiplied
                            emotions)
                        5. This only clarifies #4. God didn't want another Eve
                            taking charge and also confirms to Adam it was, and is,
                            on his shoulders. If Eve fell before, this new state of
                            existence would only be worse, if he wasn't in control.

            (Note: Adam and Eve didn’t have any children before the fall.
Any children would have been born without sin, but sin came by one and
would be on all. Even Eve didn’t have sin; her glory fell when Adam ate.
 Her seed had to remain pure. She had not disobeyed God, because
God hadn’t commanded her not to eat. Sin comes from Adams seed and
thus the seed of woman is made impure by conception. Therefore children
are born in sin. When God combined his seed with Mary’s, both being pure,
a sinless child was born, Christ.)

Adam isn't the object of Eve's desires; he's the receiver of the object of her
desires. Eve desired to be the leader or God wouldn't have had to set the
record straight. Before Adam fell, Eve was pure and perfect before God.
She had always been under Adam's glory (the glory of the Lord). For
argument's sake, we'll say that Eve ate for reasonable and good purposes.
It was still sin to disobey God, but she had disobeyed or disbelieved her
husband. That wasn't sin until Gen 3:16. After the fall, both Adam and Eve
knew good and evil. Their glory was gone, they were ashamed, and they
now bore sin. God multiplied sorrows/emotions in Eve so the small part of
her that moved her against Adam to disobey was now multiplied. That act
of doing something for good was shown in it's true light. There is only one
reason anyone disobeys another; it's not what the disobedient one wants.
Even Christ learned obedience through the things that he suffered Heb 5:8.
Purposes and goals are immaterial. Disobedience only happens when one
does their own will which conflicts with their superior's/master's will. With
this compounded for all time in the female, it has multiplied her sorrows.
            God said to Adam: Gen 3:17
                    1. Because thou hearkened to thy wife's voice instead of mine:
                        (Note: God showed Adam that he had made his wife his god
                         in the moment that he chose to obey her and disobey God.)
                    2. Cursed is the ground for thy sake
(Note: God cursed the ground but the body is made from the ground. In
one statement, God brought a curse on the body but for our sake it wasn't
on our soul. Eve being from Adam was indirectly from the ground also.)
                    3. In sorrow (worrisomeness: labor or pain) thou shalt eat of
                        it, all the days of thy life
                    4. In the sweat of thy face thou shalt eat bread till thou
                        return to the ground where you came from (Gen 3:19)
                    5. Gen 3:20 - Eve is the mother of all living (spiritually through
                        her seed
                   Christ who (Gen 3:15) shall bruise the serpent's head)

I suspect that God's curses are his word used by devils. They act
 through curses to do their work. At the cross we are free, but allow some
back, through our choices as Adam and Eve did. Devils can only attack
through the ground, which includes our physical bodies, and our minds
when we listen to them and then obey them. The devils must also obey the
word of God. If they are allowed to stay according to the oppressed one's
belief, then the word spoken by another sometimes doesn't work. The
authority of the oppressed one is greater than the other. Devils basically
stand in agreement with God's word also, in a sense. Devils also manipulate
the word to enhance their authority. Disciples use the word in power and
authority by the Holy Spirit to speak in faith, not to manipulate. Those in
authority don't have to. Manipulation is witchcraft and only used by those
who believe that they don't have the authority. Some don't have it. The
only way to know is to search the scriptures one's self. Let God be true
and every man a liar. This means be sure of your opinion. It is only that
until you've studied to show yourself approved, a workman unto Christ,
revealing truth.

Lot's wife, like Eve, didn't believe her husband or God and was
turned to a pillar of salt.

These same seducing spirits are active in the world and even in the
church. They work on the emotions of women today as the serpent did in
the garden. These women are, with all good intentions, doing the will of
God as they see it. They don't even know that they have been seduced into
believing a lie. Their desire to be in leadership, which was given to Adam
and successive men has overtaken their life and blinded them to truth. They,
and many men, see scriptures that line up with their line of thought. However,
they are wrong. God does not change.

I do not knock women teachers. As a babe in Christ and through
childhood I received much from women. As I grew older in Christ and
became a young man, I was receiving less and less from women. I didn't
understand this until I sought God and was shown why. Scripture says that
women are to teach children, and younger women to be good wives. Christ
chose men to be his disciples. He chose men to be elders through his apostles
and disciples. There is no reference to women leading a church body, being a shepherd. The leaders of Israel were all men. All reference to women in the
ministry were helpmates. Seducing spirits have convinced some women that
there is shame in being a woman and fulfilling a woman's role. They seem to
think they can't fulfill God's plan for them unless they are standing alongside
of a man doing a man’s role. The most common scripture they use to
substantiate their claim to be in a shepherd's role is Gal 3:28. The problem
here is that the spirits have done the same thing to today's women that they
did to Eve. They have taken scripture out of context to mean what they want
it to mean. If one looks at this chapter of Galatians, it becomes evident that
Paul is not trying to nullify what he said in 1 Tim 2:9-12 and 5:2-10,

Titus 2:2-5, nor 1 Pe 3:1-6. Notice that 1 Tim 5:1 tells us to treat
elders as fathers. These couldn't be women and if there were a female
pastor over these elders they would be contrary to the word. In Galatians
Paul was saying that all are the same in Christ when it comes to the promises
of God and the inheritance. If we are Abraham's seed, are we not Jews? Is
not God still interested in Israel, The Hebrew people, the Jews? Has sex
between like sexes become accepted? We must compare scripture to
scripture and stop taking it out of context to fit our own desires as Eve
did and Adam followed.

I say again that there is no shame in being a woman; it is also in
God's design. If men would be what God had meant for them to be, it
would be a pleasure to be a woman. The truth is, women were created
the weaker vessel. They are to be cherished, loved, and taken care of.
Men have failed miserably. Eve didn't fail; Adam did when he obeyed her.

Women are saved in child bearing. They nourish with milk, but the
man is to supply the meat. This also holds true in the spirit. Doesn't Christ
the husband lead the young through adulthood after the woman/bride/church
has birthed them into the kingdom? It is Christ who baptizes one into the
kingdom but it is his bride that plants the seed. We are his body and his
bride, no longer twain but one flesh. Even so, there is a separation between
the man and the woman.

I would also say that there are too many men behind a pulpit that
don't belong there. Bible colleges don't make pastors, God does. Men
seem to think that being a pastor is the most important job. I don't know if
it is pride or a lack of understanding that gives them this notion. This is not
to say that they are false teachers, though many are, but that they could
serve God better under the anointing that God has given them. All parts
of the body have an important job to do. An eye is not to hear and an ear
is not a foot. The whole body benefits when each part does the part that
God has called, appointed them to.